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#83710 - 03/19/08 09:33 AM Re: scomparsi in tunisia, news? [Re: raskebir]
Stefano Laberio Offline

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Furthermore, the CIA has indicated that the kidnappers are hided in Mali, exactly in Tigharghar area, in Kidal region, near the borders with Algeria.
Meanwhile, a communiqué posted by Al-Qaeda on internet said the ultimatum has been prolonged until next Sunday at midnight, as to give a chance for Austrian Authorities “meeting our demands.”
However, the Austrian Courier newspaper quoted a source within the CIA saying: “the two hostages are detained in Tigharghar area, situated on a hill near Abeibara region, northern Mali.”

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#83723 - 03/19/08 03:28 PM Re: scomparsi in tunisia, news? [Re: marko]
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Siamo arrivati ieri dalla Tunisia.
Abbiamo ritirato i permessi per il Sud il 07/03 a Douz e abbiamo varcato il controllo di Kamour il 08/03 senza guida e senza alcun problema o avviso da parte dei militari, idem ad El Borma.
Abbiamo percorso l'itinerario verso Lago 1 e 2 a nord di El Borma e circuito a sud di El Borma lungo il confine algerino.
Unico avvenimento un elicottero tunisino che ci ha sorvolati un paio di minuti nell'erg a nord di El Borma.
Militari e polizia nella norma, nessun turista.
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#83724 - 03/19/08 03:47 PM Re: scomparsi in tunisia, news? [Re: manolo]
Franz Offline
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Ciao Emanuele!
grazie delle news. Ti scrivo da confine con l'Algeria, ma al nord.
E speriamo sempre bene per i 2 austriaci!!!
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#83729 - 03/19/08 04:48 PM Re: scomparsi in tunisia, news? [Re: Stefano Laberio]
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"the CIA has indicated that the kidnappers are hided in Mali, exactly in Tigharghar area, in Kidal region"

Una conferma..., ma senza la "localizzazione" che sarebbe un vero punto di svolta ....siamo al punto di prima....:-)


Edited by adolfo (03/19/08 04:50 PM)
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#83730 - 03/19/08 04:55 PM Re: scomparsi in tunisia, news? [Re: manolo]
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Registered: 03/08/07
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il problema è che l'annuncio ufficiale del rapimento in Europa è stato dato il 10/3 (giorno della rivendicazione)

quindi penso che i permessi li abbiano bloccati dopo che li hanno dati a voi.
Il gestore dell'hotel Dyakyanus di Tataouine che ce li aveva preparati l'anno scorso conferma che sono bloccati (vedi sotto)

ciao
P.S. ormai i racconti di Franz sono diventati per me parte della routine quotidiana, che mi consola che quesst'anno salterà il viaggio in Tunisia...

Bonjour
je suis désolé de vous informer que le guide est devenus obligatoire aprés les incidents des 2 autrichien qui sont parti sans guide et il se sont perdus en direction de l' algerie ou ils ont etait enlevées,seul les agences et les associations peuvent avoir l'autorisation sans guide. je reste à votre disposition pour de plus amples renseignements M.Salutations

Hôtel Dakyanus

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#83743 - 03/20/08 08:41 AM Re: scomparsi in tunisia, news? [Re: maumau10]
Franz Offline
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Ciao Maumau!
Notizie degli austriaci? speriamo bene!

riguardo alle cose meno importanti:
mi onora quanto scrivi.... ti ringrazio!
per i permessi: anche a me risulta che vengano rilasciati CON guida. Beslama.
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#83744 - 03/20/08 08:52 AM Re: scomparsi in tunisia, news? [Re: Franz]
maumau10 Offline
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Registered: 03/08/07
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In questi giorni la notizia è veramente poco seguita dai media italiani (a parte il lancio il giorno 10-3 non ci sono stati praticamente più aggiornamenti)
da quello che scrivevano gli altri dopo lo slittamento dell'ultimatum non ci sono state più notizie speriamo in bene.

Nei giorni scorsi avevo anche chiamato il consolato tunisino, ma mi hanno quasi riso dietro, dicendomi che il problema era relativo all'Algeria e non alla Tunisia...
ovvio che temano ripercussioni sul turismo

speriamo in bene per i turisti

ciao !
Maurizio

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#83773 - 03/20/08 11:20 PM Re: scomparsi in tunisia, news? [Re: maumau10]
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Suspected Tuareg rebels attack convoy in north Mali
Thu 20 Mar 2008, 17:36 GMT
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By Tiemoko Diallo

BAMAKO, March 20 (Reuters) - Mali's military said suspected Tuareg rebels ambushed one of its convoys in the northeast of the country early on Thursday, wounding at least four soldiers.

The attack, which triggered a fierce gunbattle, was in the northern sector of the Kidal region close to the Algerian border, where al Qaeda kidnappers are reported to be holding two Austrian tourists seized last month in Tunisia.

The supply convoy was ambushed 18 km (11 miles) from the remote border garrison town of Tin-Zaouatene, which was briefly besieged in September by fighters led by Malian Tuareg leader Ibrahima Bahanga.

"A first vehicle hit a mine, seriously wounding four (soldiers), and then the rest of the convoy was fired on. Our men fired back and there were intense exchanges of fire," a Malian officer, who asked not to be named, told Reuters.

He said Bahanga's group, whom authorities accuse of trying to control traditional Saharan smuggling routes between Algeria and Mali, were thought to be responsible for the attack.

One of the convoy vehicles was wrecked.

The attack took place as Mali's government worked to help diplomatic negotiators from Austria try to obtain the release of tourists Andrea Kloiber, 43, and Wolfgang Ebner, 51, who went missing while on holiday in Tunisia last month.

Algerian-based al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb says it seized the two, and Malian military sources said they were being held at an Islamist hideout somewhere between the town of Kidal and the Algerian border. There was no suggestion of any link between Thursday's attack and the kidnapping of the Austrians.

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In Web postings, Al Qaeda has demanded a ransom and the liberation of 10 militants held in Algeria and Tunisia. It had set a deadline of midnight last Sunday for its demands to be met, but has extended this by a week.

Malian authorities have appealed to Tuareg community leaders in the Kidal region who might be able to act as go-betweens or mediators with the kidnappers of the Austrian hostages.

"Mali is going to let Austria freely negotiate the terms of release of the hostages ... offering its help where it's needed," a Malian official said.

Mali straddles the Sahara and the arid Sahel belt, a desolate expanse roamed by smugglers, rebel groups and nomads.

Last year, the rebels led by Bahanga carried out raids and ambushes in parts of the Kidal region, which to the east adjoins Niger, where anti-government Tuareg fighters have been waging their own one-year-old insurgency.

The nomadic light-skinned Tuaregs in northern Mali and neighbouring Niger have long complained of being marginalised by black-dominated governments far away in the south. They staged an uprising in the former French colonies in the 1990s.

The Tuareg rebels demand more autonomy and a greater share in their Saharan region's wealth, which includes deposits of uranium and gold. The Niger and Malian governments dismiss them as bandits involved in trafficking arms and drugs. (For full Reuters Africa coverage and to have your say on the top issues, visit: http://africa.reuters.com/) (Editing by Pascal Fletcher and Andrew Roche)
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#83775 - 03/21/08 08:50 AM Re: scomparsi in tunisia, news? [Re: Maki]
Franz Offline
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Ciao Maki, grazie delle news (anche se non belle), ma almeno so cosa succede in giro :-(
Un caro saluto dal grande Sud.
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#83831 - 03/22/08 07:46 PM Re: scomparsi in tunisia, news? [Re: Franz]
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rientrato oggi dalla tunisia sceso fino a el borma e poi cubo
senza guida e nessun problema ai posti di blocco . pochi italiani molti tedesci e francesi , un gruppo di spagnoli e un paio di austriaci . tutto nella norma
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